Muzzy Exhaust - Revision history

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-09-04T08:23:15Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	:Get aluminum strip about 1/8" thick and ~~maybe~~ 3/4 or 1" wide. Twist the ends to align with the passenger footpeg mounting bolt on one end and the left peg bracket on the other. Thinner than 1/8" and it won't be strong enough. Thicker and you'll have problems twisting and bending it into shape.		:Get a piece of aluminum strip about 1/8" thick and 3/4 or 1" wide. Twist the ends to align with the passenger footpeg mounting bolt on one end and the left peg bracket on the other. Thinner than 1/8" and it won't be strong enough. Thicker and you'll have problems twisting and bending it into shape.

	Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swingarm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore. Totally opinion, of course.		Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swingarm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore. Totally opinion, of course.

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-09-04T08:20:50Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:		Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:

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	~~Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good,~~ and ~~look good~~. ~~One way it looks good is by really cleaning up~~ the ~~back of~~ the ~~bike; with~~ the ~~stock exhaust cans gone~~ the ~~swing arm is fully visible~~. ~~If you leave the centerstand on,~~ it ~~will~~ be ~~quite an eyesore~~. ~~Totally opinion, of course~~.		:Get aluminum strip about 1/8" thick and maybe 3/4 or 1" wide. Twist the ends to align with the passenger footpeg mounting bolt on one end and the left peg bracket on the other. Thinner than 1/8" and it won't be strong enough. Thicker and you'll have problems twisting and bending it into shape.

	~~Without meaning~~ to ~~discourage anyone from trying~~, it's ~~probably~~ more trouble than it's worth to keep it~~. You~~ can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 ~~though~~, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.		Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swingarm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore. Totally opinion, of course.

			If you decide it's more trouble than it's worth to keep it, you can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.

	==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==		==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==

Bokonon: /* Another opinion */

2011-06-18T01:30:44Z

Another opinion

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	Muzzy is a great pipe - but it's going to cost you more cash than the performance increase is worth.		Muzzy is a great pipe - but it's going to cost you more cash than the performance increase is worth.

	Not only do you have to shell out $400 + for the pipe, you need to rejet ~~($), convert your air box to filter pods (optional, but most people do it)~~($), get rid of your center stand (buy a work stand for doing maintenance)($), cut your lower cowl (so it doesn't melt – it's not a perfect fit), and repack the core occasionally (time)($).		Not only do you have to shell out $400 + for the pipe, you need to rejet ($), get rid of your center stand (buy a work stand for doing maintenance)($), cut your lower cowl (so it doesn't melt – it's not a perfect fit), and repack the core occasionally (time)($).

	====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ65N0vHyA Sound clip]====		====[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQ65N0vHyA Sound clip]====

Bokonon at 01:28, 18 June 2011

2011-06-18T01:28:42Z

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	*You '''[[I want to improve my carburetor jetting\|need to rejet]]''' and fine tune the carbs.		*You '''[[I want to improve my carburetor jetting\|need to rejet]]''' and fine tune the carbs.
	*You need to cut the lower cowl around the pipe, as it will melt if you don't.		*You need to cut the lower cowl around the pipe, as it will melt if you don't.
	*While you are rejetting you might as well [[~~Removing~~ the ~~airbox\|remove your airbox]] and [[Aftermarket air filters and pods\|add some pods~~]]. You will have to pull your carbs off several times to get the jetting right. ~~Putting filter pods on~~ makes taking the carbs off much easier. ~~It also increases the noise your bike makes, but if you're buying a Muzzy, you're not concerned with noise…~~		*While you are rejetting you might as well [[Battery box mod for easier carb removal\|modify the battery box]]. You will have to pull your carbs off several times to get the jetting right. This makes taking the carbs off much easier.
	*If you're a high mileage rider, the stock pipes have the advantage of being maintenance-free. All other pipes require maintenance at some interval.		*If you're a high mileage rider, the stock pipes have the advantage of being maintenance-free. All other pipes require maintenance at some interval.
	*A Muzzy will reduce weight. The stock system weighs about 18.75 lbs. A Muzzy system weighs 7.5 lbs. The stock mufflers alone weigh 13.5 lbs.		*A Muzzy will reduce weight. The stock system weighs about 18.75 lbs. A Muzzy system weighs 7.5 lbs. The stock mufflers alone weigh 13.5 lbs.

Bokonon at 06:30, 10 June 2011

2011-06-10T06:30:21Z

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	*You '''[[I want to improve my carburetor jetting\|need to rejet]]''' and fine tune the carbs.		*You '''[[I want to improve my carburetor jetting\|need to rejet]]''' and fine tune the carbs.
	*You need to cut the lower cowl around the pipe, as it will melt if you don't.		*You need to cut the lower cowl around the pipe, as it will melt if you don't.
	*While you are rejetting you might as well [[~~How do I get~~ the airbox ~~out to install airfilter pods?~~\|remove your airbox]] and [[Aftermarket air filters and pods\|add some pods]]. You will have to pull your carbs off several times to get the jetting right. Putting filter pods on makes taking the carbs off much easier. It also increases the noise your bike makes, but if you're buying a Muzzy, you're not concerned with noise…		*While you are rejetting you might as well [[Removing the airbox\|remove your airbox]] and [[Aftermarket air filters and pods\|add some pods]]. You will have to pull your carbs off several times to get the jetting right. Putting filter pods on makes taking the carbs off much easier. It also increases the noise your bike makes, but if you're buying a Muzzy, you're not concerned with noise…
	*If you're a high mileage rider, the stock pipes have the advantage of being maintenance-free. All other pipes require maintenance at some interval.		*If you're a high mileage rider, the stock pipes have the advantage of being maintenance-free. All other pipes require maintenance at some interval.
	*A Muzzy will reduce weight. The stock system weighs about 18.75 lbs. A Muzzy system weighs 7.5 lbs. The stock mufflers alone weigh 13.5 lbs.		*A Muzzy will reduce weight. The stock system weighs about 18.75 lbs. A Muzzy system weighs 7.5 lbs. The stock mufflers alone weigh 13.5 lbs.

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-02-16T03:47:09Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.		Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.

	There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It just touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up all is fine, so this shouldn't be a problem for most people.		There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It ''just'' touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up all is fine, so this shouldn't be a problem for most people.

	Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:		Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-02-16T03:46:36Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.		Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.

	There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It just touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up, all is fine, so this shouldn't be a problem for most people.		There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It just touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up all is fine, so this shouldn't be a problem for most people.

	Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:		Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-02-16T03:46:12Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.		Understandably, most people want to keep their centerstand when they put on a Muzzy system. Centerstands are very useful.

	There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It just touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up, all is fine.		There are a few problems with this, however. First, the spring that holds the stand in place when retracted rubs the Muzzy's larger head pipe. It just touches the pipe when the stand is down. When it's up, all is fine, so this shouldn't be a problem for most people.

	Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:		Second, there is no "stop" for the stand anymore when retracted (since the left canister is gone); there is nothing to keep the spring from pulling the centerstand up into the swing arm and drivechain. You could fabricate a bracket to hold it in place. One example looks like this:
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	Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore.		Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore. Totally opinion, of course.

	Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.		Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-02-15T20:32:59Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

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	Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore.		Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore.

	Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing ~~rear~~ suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.		Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.

	==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==		==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==

Bokonon: /* Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust? */

2011-02-15T20:32:15Z

Do I have to remove the centerstand to install a Muzzy exhaust?

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:32, 15 February 2011
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	Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore.		Lastly, the Muzzy is designed to increase performance a bit, sound good, and look good. One way it looks good is by really cleaning up the back of the bike; with the stock exhaust cans gone the swing arm is fully visible. If you leave the centerstand on, it will be quite an eyesore.

	Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice swingarm stand for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing rear suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.		Without meaning to discourage anyone from trying, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to keep it. You can buy a nice [[Supporting Your Bike While Servicing\|swingarm stand]] for about $70-100 though, which will let you do most of the maintenance the centerstand allows. The only time you'll probably still use the centerstand is when you're doing rear suspension work; the stand can be loosely attached temporarily with two 17mm bolts, and put back in the parts bin when the work is done.

	==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==		==How much difference does the Muzzy exhaust system make?==