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Many models of bar end mirrors are made for a universal fit. For these, it's usually necessary to remove or grind off the part that fits into the bars in order to save your bar ends. Then just add a longer bolt and screw them into the bars as normal. Some have curved glass, while others have flat. Some of the more expensive ones may fold up for maneuvering in tight spaces. If this is a concern, check first.

Companies to look at:

====Companies to look at====

*[http://www.emgo.com/main_layout.html Emgo] Available at nearly any bike shop. Ridiculously cheap and reliable.

*[http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] Like Emgo, sold at shops. A major player in aftermarket parts & accessories.

*[http://www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html CRG] Billet mirrors that are expensive but much better-made than those that look the same on eBay.

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*[http://www.motostrano.com/nabarendmi.html Napoleon] May not be available due to distribution problems.

[http://www.classicpartsltd.com/classicmotorcyclemirrors.htm Halcyon] Pricey, for the cafe racer crowd.

*[http://www.classicpartsltd.com/classicmotorcyclemirrors.htm Halcyon] Pricey, for the cafe racer crowd.

*[http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-parts/mirrors-grips-handlebars.htm webBikeWorld] has links to dozens of mirror manufacturers.

~~'''~~"Ebay mirrors~~"'''~~

===="Ebay" mirrors====

*eBay often has many dealers selling bar end mirrors. These may come without a brand name (many of them are distributed by Emgo) but the price is right. These are shown below. They are available at dozens of places on eBay (just search 'bar end mirror') or from [http://www.d2moto.com/p-5498-universal-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-yamaha-black-billet-motorcycle-bar-end-mirrors-street.aspx D2MOTO], among others.

eBay often has many dealers selling bar end mirrors. These may come without a brand name (many of them are distributed by Emgo) but the price is right. These are shown below. They are available at dozens of places on eBay (just search 'bar end mirror') or from [http://www.d2moto.com/p-5498-universal-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-yamaha-black-billet-motorcycle-bar-end-mirrors-street.aspx D2MOTO], among others.

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==Standard handlebar-mounted mirror option==

The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method.

The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method. Bar-mounted mirrors are further back and make it easier to get a little more of a view behind you without necessarily going wider. They are also easier to make wider without having to resort to fabricating or other more drastic methods.

~~Traditional bar~~-mounted mirrors are further back and make it easier to get a little more of a view behind you without necessarily going wider. They are also easier to make wider without having to resort to fabricating or other more drastic methods~~. They might not look as good as body mounted mirrors, but if you are more interested in function than appearance they may be worth considering~~.

If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] (~~see a local shop~~) and nearly every parts house on the web.

If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] & [http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] (both sell through shops) and nearly every parts house on the web. Download the Emgo Filter-Mirror Catalog pdf or look at the Bikemaster site and see all the different styles of mirrors you can get.

Shown below is a 2007 EX250 with mirrors from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650 Kawasaki KLR]. Many different mirrors will work on the bike, but this is a known application. These KLR mirrors give a lot better rear view than the stock ones.

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You can definitely widen the mirror positioning with extensions and get a better view behind you, without wasting huge amounts of mirror 'real estate' on your elbows. If you do any lane splitting though, widened positioning may be noticeable. Also, the unique nature of the body-mounted mirrors makes widening hardware less simple than tweaking standard mirrors or exploring alternatives.

If you want to try to make your own extensions, you can take a look at this [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions|not-exactly-a-how-to]] for some ideas. You're gonna need some tools...

If you want to try to make your own extensions, you can take a look at this [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions|not-exactly-a-how-to]] for some ideas. [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions v3|Version 3]] is a little more refined. You're gonna need some tools...

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 Many models of bar end mirrors are made for a universal fit. For these, it's usually necessary to remove or grind off the part that fits into the bars in order to save your bar ends. Then just add a longer bolt and screw them into the bars as normal. Some have curved glass, while others have flat. Some of the more expensive ones may fold up for maneuvering in tight spaces. If this is a concern, check first.
-Companies to look at:
+====Companies to look at====
 *[http://www.emgo.com/main_layout.html Emgo] Available at nearly any bike shop. Ridiculously cheap and reliable.
+*[http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] Like Emgo, sold at shops. A major player in aftermarket parts & accessories.
 *[http://www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html CRG] Billet mirrors that are expensive but much better-made than those that look the same on eBay.
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 *[http://www.motostrano.com/nabarendmi.html Napoleon] May not be available due to distribution problems.
-[http://www.classicpartsltd.com/classicmotorcyclemirrors.htm  Halcyon] Pricey, for the cafe racer crowd.
+*[http://www.classicpartsltd.com/classicmotorcyclemirrors.htm  Halcyon] Pricey, for the cafe racer crowd.
 *[http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-parts/mirrors-grips-handlebars.htm webBikeWorld] has links to dozens of mirror manufacturers.
-'''"Ebay mirrors"'''
+===="Ebay" mirrors====
-*eBay often has many dealers selling bar end mirrors. These may come without a brand name (many of them are distributed by Emgo) but the price is right. These are shown below. They are available at dozens of places on eBay (just search 'bar end mirror') or from [http://www.d2moto.com/p-5498-universal-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-yamaha-black-billet-motorcycle-bar-end-mirrors-street.aspx D2MOTO], among others.
+eBay often has many dealers selling bar end mirrors. These may come without a brand name (many of them are distributed by Emgo) but the price is right. These are shown below. They are available at dozens of places on eBay (just search 'bar end mirror') or from [http://www.d2moto.com/p-5498-universal-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-yamaha-black-billet-motorcycle-bar-end-mirrors-street.aspx D2MOTO], among others.
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 ==Standard handlebar-mounted mirror option==
-The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method.
+The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method. Bar-mounted mirrors are further back and make it easier to get a little more of a view behind you without necessarily going wider. They are also easier to make wider without having to resort to fabricating or other more drastic methods.
-Traditional bar-mounted mirrors are further back and make it easier to get a little more of a view behind you without necessarily going wider. They are also easier to make wider without having to resort to fabricating or other more drastic methods. They might not look as good as body mounted mirrors, but if you are more interested in function than appearance they may be worth considering.
-If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] (see a local shop) and nearly every parts house on the web.
+If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] & [http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] (both sell through shops) and nearly every parts house on the web. Download the Emgo Filter-Mirror Catalog pdf or look at the Bikemaster site and see all the different styles of mirrors you can get.
 Shown below is a 2007 EX250 with mirrors from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650 Kawasaki KLR]. Many different mirrors will work on the bike, but this is a known application. These KLR mirrors give a lot better rear view than the stock ones.
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 You can definitely widen the mirror positioning with extensions and get a better view behind you, without wasting huge amounts of mirror 'real estate' on your elbows. If you do any lane splitting though, widened positioning may be noticeable. Also, the unique nature of the body-mounted mirrors makes widening hardware less simple than tweaking standard mirrors or exploring alternatives.
-If you want to try to make your own extensions, you can take a look at this [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions|not-exactly-a-how-to]] for some ideas. You're gonna need some tools...
+If you want to try to make your own extensions, you can take a look at this [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions|not-exactly-a-how-to]] for some ideas. [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions v3|Version 3]] is a little more refined. You're gonna need some tools...